Lady Catherine Can’t Fire Mr. Collins

Common Pride & Prejudice Misconceptions, Part 1

Something I see online and in Jane Austen fan fiction from time to time is the idea that Mr. Collins is so devoted to Lady Catherine because she could revoke his living and position as rector. This is absolutely false. So why is Mr. Collins such a suck-up?

First, I’ll explain why Lady Catherine cannot fire her rector. Mr. Collins is an employee of the Church of England. Lady Catherine only is allowed to choose the person who will next hold a living within her “gift”, after that, it’s out of her hands. If a rector did something egregious, she would be able to petition for his removal, but this was nearly impossible, as explained in this example by Bredna S. Cox in the book Fashionable Goodness: Christianity in Jane Austen’s England.

Dr. Free seduced his housekeepers, resulting in five illegitimate children; caused one of the women to miscarry; let his pigs desecrate the graveyard, and kept cattle on the church porch; sold the lead off the church roof; cut down and sold trees not belonging to him; left the parish for long periods of time; and refused to marry and bury his parishioners. Eventually, when he offended a gentry family over a burial, they lodged a complaint. This led to seven years of expensive trials, at the Bishop of Lincoln’s personal expense. Finally Dr. Free was removed from his living, eventually dying as a beggar. (Ch 10)

As I cannot see Mr. Collins doing anything close to this level, his removal is highly unlikely.

So if he can’t be fired, why the fawning?

As Elizabeth observes: Very few days passed in which Mr. Collins did not walk to Rosings, and not many in which his wife did not think it necessary to go likewise; and till Elizabeth recollected that there might be other family livings to be disposed of, she could not understand the sacrifice of so many hours. (Ch 30)

It was possible for clergymen to hold multiple livings. They would install a curate for about £50/year and pocket the rest of the income. Alternatively, if the livings were close together, a clergyman could preach at different times in two different churches. Mr. & Mrs. Collins are most likely on a charm campaign to secure another income. This was called “pluralism” and is discussed in Austen’s other novels, specifically Mansfield Park, in which Sir Thomas was holding two different livings to eventually gift to his son Edmund Bertram.

There is another reason worth mentioning: Mr. Collins is grateful! He was extremely lucky to be gifted a living so young and without doing much to secure it. He basically won the lottery and it was she who did it. There were many clergymen who spent their entire careers without holding a living.

Mr. Collins was not a sensible man, and the deficiency of nature had been but little assisted by education or society; the greatest part of his life having been spent under the guidance of an illiterate and miserly father; and though he belonged to one of the universities, he had merely kept the necessary terms without forming at it any useful acquaintance. The subjection in which his father had brought him up had given him originally great humility of manner; but it was now a good deal counteracted by the self-conceit of a weak head, living in retirement, and the consequential feelings of early and unexpected prosperity. A fortunate chance had recommended him to Lady Catherine de Bourgh when the living of Hunsford was vacant; and the respect which he felt for her high rank, and his veneration for her as his patroness, mingling with a very good opinion of himself, of his authority as a clergyman, and his right as a rector, made him altogether a mixture of pride and obsequiousness, self-importance and humility.

This living is also a good one! Lady Catherine has no sons and the Hunsford living is very close to her estate. This makes it likely that the living was intended for a de Bourgh younger son or relation. The income was likely between £500-700/annum, based on the fact that Mr. Collins keeps a gig and horse (that wasn’t cheap), the income that Edmund Bertram expects to receive from his family living in Mansfield Park, and that Mr. Collins believes he can marry upon his present income. Colonel Brandon, Edward Ferrars, and Elinor Dashwood all agree in Sense & Sensibility that it would be madness to marry with only a living worth £200/annum, so Mr. Collins’ income must be higher than that or Charlotte wouldn’t have had him!

Lastly, we know that Mr. Collins doesn’t have any other relations or connections to brag about. Lady Catherine is the most interesting and prestigious person he knows; of course, he’s going to talk about her! It’s also important to keep in mind that he just got this job:

She had been graciously pleased to approve of both the discourses which he had already had the honour of preaching before her. She had also asked him twice to dine at Rosings, and had sent for him only the Saturday before, to make up her pool of quadrille in the evening.

He’s only preached in front of her twice! We don’t know what Lady Catherine’s church attendance is like (it may be poor), but Mr. Collins has likely only had the job for a brief time, maybe two or three months. Perhaps in a few years time, he won’t mention Lady Catherine in every other sentence.

Or at least that’s what I hope for Charlotte’s sake!

More:

The Problem with Portrayals of Mr. Collins

Why the Tour of Pemberley Matters: Part 1 and Part 2

How well could Caroline Bingley expect to marry?

Could Mr. Bennet have Saved Enough for Decent Fortunes on his Income?

What do we Really Know about Colonel Fitzwilliam?

My published novels:

Prideful & Persuaded – a Jane Austen cross-over romance staring Caroline Bingley

Unfairly Caught – a Mansfield Park variation

7 responses to “Lady Catherine Can’t Fire Mr. Collins”

  1. Alice McVeigh Avatar
    Alice McVeigh

    Very clever post. The giving of livings was definitely a very odd part of Regency life, and very dependent upon connections. Bredna S. Cox was new to me – thanks! – but I knew it was tough to uncouple a clergyman from his living (even in Trollope, far later, in terms of period).

  2. cindie snyder Avatar
    cindie snyder

    Yes very clever! I never knew what a living was! No wonder Mr Collins was so close to Lady Catherine Debourgh!

    1. JMM Avatar
      JMM

      Yes, she could make over more livings. And I’m fairly certain she was too proud not to pay her rector very well. No one would be able to come by the parish and see him living in anything but the best a vicar could hope for.

  3. Catherine Hemingway Avatar

    It was likely Lady Catherine selected Mr. Collins for the living because he accommodated her by not claiming the full tithe rights due him.

    1. bdelleman Avatar
      bdelleman

      That is certainly possible. Lucy Steele contemplates raising Colonel Brandon’s tithes to the upmost possible!

  4. Regina Jeffers Avatar

    The hard part of becoming a clergyman was obtaining a position.
    As one usually had to have a position before the bishop of that See would ordain you, the young man needed to have some relatives, pull, or good luck to be given a living.
    Some men were ordained but worked as school masters, librarians, or private chaplains. Each noble and royal was allowed a certain number of chaplains.
    How Lady Catherine happened to come across Collins we aren’t told.
    She might have sent a notice to the newspapers announcing interviews for a vacancy in Hunsford parish church. There would have been several applicants but many wouldn’t have given her the deference she thought she deserved. Perhaps Collins was accepted because he was a sycophant. She would not have wanted a parson who would go against her.
    She could have asked the bishop for a candidate. No matter how it came about, it was her right to appoint a person to the position. The bishop of the See had to approve the appointment, but usually, there was no disagreement over the proprietor’s choice.
    Lady Catherine had the right to appoint the clergyman to serve the parish church because she owned the advowson and was the proprietor of the living.
    SHE COULD ALSO BE THE RECTOR OF THE LIVING.
    THE RECTOR NEED NOT BE AN ORDAINED CLERGYMAN OR EVEN A MAN.
    It could be a female, a family, a school, a college, a bishop, the Crown, or a guild. The owner of the advowson could be a Roman Catholic. Catholics were supposed to allow a Protestant or a University to appoint clergymen to those livings. The Duke of Norfolk who a had dozens of livings usually made the presentations, but he had a Protestant name them to the bishops.
    AT THAT TIME, THE OWNER AND RECTOR COULD BE THE SAME PERSON OR ORGANIZATION, OR IT COULD BE THE INCUMBENT.
    So, that means Lady Catherine could have delivered the sermons herself, though I imagine she would think doing so was below her, but several of the adaptations suggests she was saying the words along with Mr. Collins, giving the impression she assisted in writing them.
    How the living was dispensed with depended on how the position was set up when established.

  5. Caroline Avatar
    Caroline

    Nice post! I would like to add a bit: firstly, there’s a book- ‘Jane Austen and the l Clergy’ by professor Irene Collins, which delves deep into all aspects of being, or living with, a clergyman, including describing several activities that a clergyman might carry out which would augment his authority within the parish. This might help account for Mr Collins’ self importance, and why he ( and indeed Mr Elton, as Mr Knightly remarks) would often be in male- only company where Charlotte could not go; and under what circumstances a clergyman might have more than one living with the blessing of the local bishop. For this she uses the Austen family as examples. She also gives plausible reasoning to suggest that Mr C’s living was an exceptionally rich one. Anyway, if you are interested in any or all of Jane Austen’s real or fictitious parsons, sextons, vergers, deacons and what they did, and what she said about them, this book is very helpful.

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